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the second thing is that the nra is basically a no regulation organization. they don't want any new regulations of any sort. and none of the gun, i don't call them gun rights groups, but gun proliferation groups, because that is the business they are in, to make sure that there are more guns produced, sold and in public hands. and i think that, that pushing in that direction is actual think wrong direction for us to go, because they will not only -- there will be people who most people who buy a gun will use it responsibly. but the more guns that are out there, the more likely guns will be able to fall into the hands of the criminals, and that becomes the problem. >> okay. well, the debate will carry on and i will have you back soon. dana loeshe and charles blow. thank you both very much. nd flu fights your worst flu symptoms, plus that cough. [ sighs ] thanks!... [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back
the second thing is that the nra is basically a no regulation organization. they don't want any new regulations of any sort. and none of the gun, i don't call them gun rights groups, but gun proliferation groups, because that is the business they are in, to make sure that there are more guns produced, sold and in public hands. and i think that, that pushing in that direction is actual think wrong direction for us to go, because they will not only -- there will be people who most people who buy...
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in reality, how successful are the nra at doing that? >> well, they're much less successful than they used to be, and that's the point that i'm trying to make to my colleagues. because i have a feeling that there are a lot of republicans and democrats that know exactly what the right thing to do is here. they know that if they want to make it less likely that there's a school shooting in their district, that they should join us, join the parents of newtown and pass a strong gun reform measure that gets these high capacity magazines off the streets and puts in background checks for every assault weapon that's sold in this country, but they fear the political power of the nra. the political power of the nra just isn't what it used to be. take the 2012 election. in the 16 contested senate races that the nra put money into, they lost 13 of those races. a 20% return on their investment. that's not the kind of political muscle that the nra tells members that they have. in fact, you'd be better off being against the nra in the 2012 elections th
in reality, how successful are the nra at doing that? >> well, they're much less successful than they used to be, and that's the point that i'm trying to make to my colleagues. because i have a feeling that there are a lot of republicans and democrats that know exactly what the right thing to do is here. they know that if they want to make it less likely that there's a school shooting in their district, that they should join us, join the parents of newtown and pass a strong gun reform...
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no one should be afraid of the nra. if you look at their electoral record, it's pretty pathetic when 90% of incumbents got re-elected, only 80% of the people they supported got re-elected. they're not the electoral force members of congress think they are, and they're fundamentally on the wrong side of the debate. the stuff they're putting out, like the commercial they released yesterday against president obama, is almost like a "saturday night live" parody of themselves and the if they're going to continue to conduct themselves this way, members of congress are going to separate from them. >> are you dispirited about the rumbles that the president can't push through an assault weapons ban. no one can tell them the power has no place on civilian streets or in civilian hands, and almost already, i'm seeing the white flags of surrender in washington. who is going to show some kind of political leadership? >> yeah, you know, i have talked to so many of these parents and families over the last few weeks. and one father, i s
no one should be afraid of the nra. if you look at their electoral record, it's pretty pathetic when 90% of incumbents got re-elected, only 80% of the people they supported got re-elected. they're not the electoral force members of congress think they are, and they're fundamentally on the wrong side of the debate. the stuff they're putting out, like the commercial they released yesterday against president obama, is almost like a "saturday night live" parody of themselves and the if...
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endorsements, the nra's pac contributions and the nra's independent expenditures and found in fact you're pretty hard-pressed to find more than a handful of races where the nra's involvement made a difference. and they had a really bad year in november. they endorsed only seven senate candidates where they spent more than $100,000 in those races. six of those candidates lost. they spent more money i think on defeating barack obama because he was going to erase the second amendment from the constitution than they've ever spent to defeat anybody before, yet there he was today at the white house behind the podium talking about reasonable common sense gun laws. >> i thought the nra's advertisement lambasting the president for the security around his children was particularly offensive and a new low even by the leadership of that organization standards today. >> you know, we talked to nra members and we talked to gun deal. >> and we poll them. the truth is the average nra member has not been very happy with the performance that they've been seeing out of the nra's washington lobbyists lately.
endorsements, the nra's pac contributions and the nra's independent expenditures and found in fact you're pretty hard-pressed to find more than a handful of races where the nra's involvement made a difference. and they had a really bad year in november. they endorsed only seven senate candidates where they spent more than $100,000 in those races. six of those candidates lost. they spent more money i think on defeating barack obama because he was going to erase the second amendment from the...
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>> including nra as well. >> why would you not like background checks? >> well, why would you commit a straw man? who said i didn't like background checks? >> hang on. >> do you realize the system is incredibly overburdened as well. >> hold on. i asked you last time is there anything in this that you liked. you just said that. and then you said there was nothing. now you said you may like background checks. did you mislead me last time? >> no, wait a minute. wait a minute. let me tell you what i think instead of you putting words into my mouth. >> you're saying it. not me. >> these executive actions that the president listed, these 23 actions, aren't actually going to do anything to curb violence. and the thing that struck me as being most ironic -- >> that's palpable nonsense. >> no. it's actually not, piers. and i would love for you to prove how that is -- >> you don't think having background checks on gun sales in america where currently 40% -- >> i didn't say anything about background checks. i didn't say anything about background checks. you're the
>> including nra as well. >> why would you not like background checks? >> well, why would you commit a straw man? who said i didn't like background checks? >> hang on. >> do you realize the system is incredibly overburdened as well. >> hold on. i asked you last time is there anything in this that you liked. you just said that. and then you said there was nothing. now you said you may like background checks. did you mislead me last time? >> no, wait a...
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i'm not a member of the nra. look, the newtown tragedy was an anomalous horror. i know how newtown happened. i'm still really, really wrecked over why. >> when you say it's an anomaly. it wasn't really in a sense that last four or five mass shootings in america in the last 18 months involved a similar pattern of unstable, young white men -- >> in the scope of history. in the century of the 50 years, 40 years. >> the point i'm making is there's an escalation in this particular type of deranged, young, white men in their early 20s getting access to assault rifles and committing mass murder. that's become not the norm but certainly the last five mass shootings you have seen that particular type of weapon used. i keep asking people, maybe you can give me a more sensible answer -- >> virginia tech i don't remember. i thought he had handguns. >> i'm talking in the last year. seven mass shootings in america in the last year. aurora the guy used an ar-15. sandy hook, ar-15. new york firemen lured to their deaths. >> congressman giffords was handguns. >> that's equally im
i'm not a member of the nra. look, the newtown tragedy was an anomalous horror. i know how newtown happened. i'm still really, really wrecked over why. >> when you say it's an anomaly. it wasn't really in a sense that last four or five mass shootings in america in the last 18 months involved a similar pattern of unstable, young white men -- >> in the scope of history. in the century of the 50 years, 40 years. >> the point i'm making is there's an escalation in this particular...
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including nra. >> why would you not like background checks? >> who said i didn't like background checks? >> hold on. i asked you last time is there anything in this that you liked. and then you said there was nothing. now you said you may like background checks. did you mislead me last time? >> wait a minute. wait a minute. let me tell you what i think instead of you putting words into my mouth. the executive actions, these executive actions that the president listed, these 23 actions, aren't going to do anything to curb violence. the thing that struck me as being most ironic is two of these -- >> it's nonsense. >> it's not. i would love for you to prove -- >> you don't think having background checks of gun sales -- >> i didn't say anything about background checks. you're the one that keeps bringing up background checks. do you realize they wouldn't have done anything for sandy hook. they wouldn't have done anything for virginia tech. th it's not because the law failed. it's because people who are supposed to follow the law failed. i put this
including nra. >> why would you not like background checks? >> who said i didn't like background checks? >> hold on. i asked you last time is there anything in this that you liked. and then you said there was nothing. now you said you may like background checks. did you mislead me last time? >> wait a minute. wait a minute. let me tell you what i think instead of you putting words into my mouth. the executive actions, these executive actions that the president listed,...
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he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given that issue over to them because they have lobbyists they pay money. in the end, the people determine the outcome. and it's wrong, and it's racist and it's bigoted to say that guns are quintessentially american. they may represent a part of america, but my grandparents who came over from poland and live in brooklyn, new york, are just as much americans, people who came over from ireland, people who came over from italy, we're just as much americans. we live on the coast and we have a right to define the america we want to live in and we have the obligation to win politically, to vote for people to put gun control as a high
he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given...
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. >> that is what the weapons r people like alex jones, nra and others, they shout so regularly, they frame the argument, they are trying to grab our guns, i don't want to change the second amendment. i don't want to change the person's right to defend their home. i want to get rid of the killing machines. get rid of them. >> guns don't kill people, people kill people. yes, try killing that many people in such a short amount of time with a hammer or knife. >> in the same week of sandy hook, a manman in china attacked a school. and stabbed 22 children. they all lived. that is all you need to know. had he had a gun, they would all be dead. guns kill that is their only purpose. >> patrick and i come from a family that have been affected. those people in aurora and sandy hook, they will be affected for years to come. and those people, demanding the rights to have those guns, for those that are suffering is disconcerting. >> are you surprised, in following the assassinations of john f. kennedy, of bobby kennedy, where we are in a country now, that mass shootings are happening with regulari
. >> that is what the weapons r people like alex jones, nra and others, they shout so regularly, they frame the argument, they are trying to grab our guns, i don't want to change the second amendment. i don't want to change the person's right to defend their home. i want to get rid of the killing machines. get rid of them. >> guns don't kill people, people kill people. yes, try killing that many people in such a short amount of time with a hammer or knife. >> in the same week...
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. >> if you are in the meeting tomorrow with vice president biden with the nra and walmart and others, what would you be sayinging? >> that the discussion has not been going anywhere that we can tell in a productive way. we are not talking about people defending themselves precisely in these gun-free zones. hopefully, at some point, we are going to come to the realization that repeating the same policy year after year getting the same deadly results is only going to get us the same deadly results is only going to get us the same deadly results the next time. >> right. so your solution, if you were there in that meeting, would be to arm every school, every church, every hospital, everywhere that members of the public can be? >> you certainly would want to encourage people who are qualified to carry concealed firearm to be able to do so in a school zone. right now that is illegal in all but a couple of our states and some of our institutions of higher learning. but, by and large, it's prohibited. that needs to stop because we have been using those as magnets where all of our mass murder
. >> if you are in the meeting tomorrow with vice president biden with the nra and walmart and others, what would you be sayinging? >> that the discussion has not been going anywhere that we can tell in a productive way. we are not talking about people defending themselves precisely in these gun-free zones. hopefully, at some point, we are going to come to the realization that repeating the same policy year after year getting the same deadly results is only going to get us the same...